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we're here with Sean Logan director of College counseling at Phillips Academy and Sean in addition to deciding between a public and a private school or a university versus a liberal arts college students often tend to consider schools with with special focuses or affiliations can you talk us through a little bit about what's out there what are sort of some of the options sure so as students start to get into the research process and really again do some reflection or really thinking about what they want in a four-year experience you know they may start to come across schools that have real particular interests for them and again there are many different schools that may fill that interest for them and let me give you a few examples so there are art schools out there I think some of the you know the ones that students might know are schools like Juilliard RISD which is the Rhode Island School of Design Savannah Savannah College of Art Design is another one these specialty arts schools allow a student to get a four-year degree so that Bachelor of Arts but really being specific in an area that they're they're interested in military academies or another one that popped in mind you know again the West Point the Naval Academy the Air Force Academy Coast Guard Academy these four offer students a very specific opportunity and again may really may be very appealing to them and what those schools offer especially because all four of them would be free but certainly have to give back years of service service time after that there are single-sex colleges you know I think the the ones that come to mind are schools like Wellesley Smith Mount Holyoke Scripps Pitts and Scripps and Bryn Mawr College are some of the all-female schools and again as a woman in this process they may be really appealing for the education that they give there are historically black colleges that students may find very interesting and appealing to them so again Spelman Morehouse Howard are in examples of that and probably again another group that would have interest or students might be religiously affiliated colleges so I think some of the nationally known ones students would know are places like Notre Dame and probably Georgetown and Boston College that are Catholic schools but you know there are other schools that are out there again you see of a University BYU and so forth that have other affiliations that students could be very interested in so this is one of those areas that again may be very much appeal to students as they do research great and in all of these schools Sean do students don't get the standard BS or BA degree they do so again it's a it's a these are four-year colleges they get the four-year degree but the school's themselves have a very particular mission and opportunities that they offer that may really appeal to students okay thank you so much